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diff --git a/doc/forum/Apache.siteEnabled_doesn_not_update_the_apache_config_file.mdwn b/doc/forum/Apache.siteEnabled_doesn_not_update_the_apache_config_file.mdwn new file mode 100644 index 00000000..b678d8d0 --- /dev/null +++ b/doc/forum/Apache.siteEnabled_doesn_not_update_the_apache_config_file.mdwn @@ -0,0 +1,34 @@ +Hello, + +Still working on the reprepro property :) + +Here A property that I am using to publish a repository via apache (this is a prototype) + + website :: String -> Property + website hn = toProp $ Apache.siteEnabled hn apachecfg + where + apachecfg = [ "<VirtualHost *>" + , "DocumentRoot " ++ basePath + , "<Directory " ++ basePath ++ ">" + , " Options Indexes FollowSymLinks Multiviews" + , " Order allow,deny" + , Apache.allowAll + , "</Directory>" + ] ++ concatMap deny ["db", "conf", "incoming"] + ++ ["</VirtualHost>"] + + deny dir = [ "<Directory \"" ++ basePath ++ "apt/*/" ++ dir ++ "\">" + , " Order deny,allow" + , " Deny from all" + , "</Directory>" + ] + +during my test I am runing the config.hs with +runhaskell config.hs (it work the first time, the apache config files are ok) + +but when I do a modification on the apachecfg and rerun the runhaskell, +the config files are not updated. I need to remove them to have an updated version. + +cheers + +Fred diff --git a/doc/forum/Apache.siteEnabled_doesn_not_update_the_apache_config_file/comment_1_932ba6f4e444c99d8d561149d17c8fe7._comment b/doc/forum/Apache.siteEnabled_doesn_not_update_the_apache_config_file/comment_1_932ba6f4e444c99d8d561149d17c8fe7._comment new file mode 100644 index 00000000..0101ccb2 --- /dev/null +++ b/doc/forum/Apache.siteEnabled_doesn_not_update_the_apache_config_file/comment_1_932ba6f4e444c99d8d561149d17c8fe7._comment @@ -0,0 +1,30 @@ +[[!comment format=mdwn + username="picca" + subject="first run" + date="2014-12-08T09:31:46Z" + content=""" +root@mordor:~/propellor/src# PROPELLOR_DEBUG=1 runhaskell config.hs +[2014-12-08 10:27:10 CET] read: hostname [\"-f\"] +[2014-12-08 10:27:10 CET] command line: Run \"mordor\" +[2014-12-08 10:27:10 CET] read: git [\"remote\"] +[2014-12-08 10:27:10 CET] read: git [\"symbolic-ref\",\"--short\",\"HEAD\"] +[2014-12-08 10:27:10 CET] call: git [\"fetch\"] +Pull from central git repository ... done +[2014-12-08 10:27:12 CET] read: git [\"show-ref\",\"--hash\",\"master\"] +[2014-12-08 10:27:12 CET] read: git [\"show-ref\",\"--hash\",\"master\"] +mordor has Operating System (Debian Unstable) \"i386\" ... ok +[2014-12-08 10:27:12 CET] read: apt-cache [\"policy\",\"etckeeper\"] +mordor apt installed etckeeper ... ok +[2014-12-08 10:27:13 CET] read: apt-cache [\"policy\",\"ssh\"] +mordor apt installed ssh ... ok +[2014-12-08 10:27:13 CET] read: passwd [\"-S\",\"root\"] +mordor root has password ... ok +[2014-12-08 10:27:13 CET] call: a2query [\"-q\",\"-s\",\"reprepro\"] +[2014-12-08 10:27:14 CET] read: apt-cache [\"policy\",\"apache2\"] +[2014-12-08 10:27:14 CET] call: a2ensite [\"--quiet\",\"reprepro\"] +Enabling site reprepro. +[2014-12-08 10:27:15 CET] call: sh [\"-c\",\"set -e ; service 'apache2' reload >/dev/null 2>&1 || true\"] +mordor create reprepro ... done +mordor overall ... done + +"""]] diff --git a/doc/forum/Apache.siteEnabled_doesn_not_update_the_apache_config_file/comment_2_5323336b92d9aef5a9021b924029f3af._comment b/doc/forum/Apache.siteEnabled_doesn_not_update_the_apache_config_file/comment_2_5323336b92d9aef5a9021b924029f3af._comment new file mode 100644 index 00000000..85a57383 --- /dev/null +++ b/doc/forum/Apache.siteEnabled_doesn_not_update_the_apache_config_file/comment_2_5323336b92d9aef5a9021b924029f3af._comment @@ -0,0 +1,38 @@ +[[!comment format=mdwn + username="picca" + subject="second run with content modified" + date="2014-12-08T09:37:43Z" + content=""" +Second run after adding a space here + + - , \" Options Indexes FollowSymLinks Multiviews\" + + , \" Options Indexes FollowSymLinks Multiviews\" + + + root@mordor:~/propellor/src# PROPELLOR_DEBUG=1 runhaskell config.hs + [2014-12-08 10:34:19 CET] read: hostname [\"-f\"] + [2014-12-08 10:34:19 CET] command line: Run \"mordor\" + [2014-12-08 10:34:19 CET] read: git [\"remote\"] + [2014-12-08 10:34:19 CET] read: git [\"symbolic-ref\",\"--short\",\"HEAD\"] + [2014-12-08 10:34:19 CET] call: git [\"fetch\"] + remote: Counting objects: 32, done. + remote: Compressing objects: 100% (6/6), done. + remote: Total 6 (delta 3), reused 0 (delta 0) + Dépaquetage des objets: 100% (6/6), fait. + Depuis git://git.kitenet.net/propellor + c5a8cae..9ac0dfb master -> origin/master + Pull from central git repository ... done + [2014-12-08 10:34:20 CET] read: git [\"show-ref\",\"--hash\",\"master\"] + [2014-12-08 10:34:20 CET] read: git [\"show-ref\",\"--hash\",\"master\"] + mordor has Operating System (Debian Unstable) \"i386\" ... ok + [2014-12-08 10:34:20 CET] read: apt-cache [\"policy\",\"etckeeper\"] + mordor apt installed etckeeper ... ok + [2014-12-08 10:34:21 CET] read: apt-cache [\"policy\",\"ssh\"] + mordor apt installed ssh ... ok + [2014-12-08 10:34:21 CET] read: passwd [\"-S\",\"root\"] + mordor root has password ... ok + [2014-12-08 10:34:21 CET] call: a2query [\"-q\",\"-s\",\"reprepro\"] + mordor create reprepro ... ok + mordor overall ... ok + +"""]] diff --git a/doc/forum/Apache.siteEnabled_doesn_not_update_the_apache_config_file/comment_3_531c2c5e78fb5c62e54d84231b129dc8._comment b/doc/forum/Apache.siteEnabled_doesn_not_update_the_apache_config_file/comment_3_531c2c5e78fb5c62e54d84231b129dc8._comment new file mode 100644 index 00000000..5dc67fb0 --- /dev/null +++ b/doc/forum/Apache.siteEnabled_doesn_not_update_the_apache_config_file/comment_3_531c2c5e78fb5c62e54d84231b129dc8._comment @@ -0,0 +1,11 @@ +[[!comment format=mdwn + username="picca" + subject="comment 3" + date="2014-12-08T10:47:59Z" + content=""" +I forgot to say that the content of + +/etc/apache2/site-xxx/reprepro[.conf] + +is unmodifed after this second run +"""]] diff --git a/doc/forum/Apache.siteEnabled_doesn_not_update_the_apache_config_file/comment_4_54281604c588a7229f9d987e8cdee802._comment b/doc/forum/Apache.siteEnabled_doesn_not_update_the_apache_config_file/comment_4_54281604c588a7229f9d987e8cdee802._comment new file mode 100644 index 00000000..a9201541 --- /dev/null +++ b/doc/forum/Apache.siteEnabled_doesn_not_update_the_apache_config_file/comment_4_54281604c588a7229f9d987e8cdee802._comment @@ -0,0 +1,16 @@ +[[!comment format=mdwn + username="joey" + subject="""comment 4""" + date="2014-12-09T04:35:12Z" + content=""" +Pretty obvious why if you look at the code: + + enable = check (not <$> isenabled) $ + cmdProperty "a2ensite" ["--quiet", hn] + `describe` ("apache site enabled " ++ hn) + `requires` siteAvailable hn cf + +So that property was skipped entirely if the site was already enabled and never looked at the config file. + +I've put in a fix. +"""]] diff --git a/doc/forum/Propellor_without_superuser_privileges.mdwn b/doc/forum/Propellor_without_superuser_privileges.mdwn new file mode 100644 index 00000000..d7288a72 --- /dev/null +++ b/doc/forum/Propellor_without_superuser_privileges.mdwn @@ -0,0 +1,3 @@ +Joey uses propellor to popular his /home/joey on hosts he controls. I'd like to use it to populate my home directory on hosts where I don't have root. If someone gives me a shell account on a Debian box, it would be great to just run `propellor --spin` to have apply properties such as having certain stuff downloaded and compiled in `~/local/bin`, putting cronjobs in place, and checking stuff out with `myrepos`. + +Does propellor assume root access at a deep enough level that writing properties to do this stuff would be impractical? diff --git a/doc/forum/Propellor_without_superuser_privileges/comment_1_021ecbb1b8bd7e26776b49ec75e90d0c._comment b/doc/forum/Propellor_without_superuser_privileges/comment_1_021ecbb1b8bd7e26776b49ec75e90d0c._comment new file mode 100644 index 00000000..1a38ef94 --- /dev/null +++ b/doc/forum/Propellor_without_superuser_privileges/comment_1_021ecbb1b8bd7e26776b49ec75e90d0c._comment @@ -0,0 +1,26 @@ +[[!comment format=mdwn + username="joey" + subject="""comment 1""" + date="2014-12-26T19:26:00Z" + content=""" +I think that the root assumptions are in basically 3 places: + +* Many Properties assume they're run as root, and will fail if they're not. + Probably not a problem in practice for most of them. It might be nice + to make a few, such as `User.hasSomePassword` work when run as a normal + user. + +* Propellor's self-deployment involves running apt-get to instal ghc, + etc. This could be modified to check if it's not root and do a local + user of ghc if necessary. + +* `localdir = "/usr/local" and this is used in various places by eg, + `--spin`. It is, however, entirely possible to run "./propellor" in + some other directory, which causes it to run in that directory + and ensure the properties of localhost. `--spin` could certianly be + taught to run in a user mode where it uses "~/.propellor/" instead of + `localdir`. + +I think that's all! I don't plan to try to add this feature myself, but +will be happy to support anyone who wants to work on it. +"""]] diff --git a/doc/forum/Supported_OS.mdwn b/doc/forum/Supported_OS.mdwn new file mode 100644 index 00000000..f17b9054 --- /dev/null +++ b/doc/forum/Supported_OS.mdwn @@ -0,0 +1,5 @@ +What are the requirements for the configured OS ? Does it need to be Debian ? + +Would Propellor work for Arch linux, RHEL, Windows, AIX or linux on pSeries) ? + +Cheers diff --git a/doc/forum/Supported_OS/comment_1_f324bed708305e2667bd00f80544dd90._comment b/doc/forum/Supported_OS/comment_1_f324bed708305e2667bd00f80544dd90._comment new file mode 100644 index 00000000..3a2055ea --- /dev/null +++ b/doc/forum/Supported_OS/comment_1_f324bed708305e2667bd00f80544dd90._comment @@ -0,0 +1,23 @@ +[[!comment format=mdwn + username="joey" + subject="""comment 1""" + date="2014-12-07T15:58:03Z" + content=""" +I have heard of propellor being used on OSX. Probably that user wrote their +own code for OSX specific stuff. + +Propellor properites can be parameterized by OS. Currently it has support +for Debian and some untested support for Ubuntu. A property can be parameterized +like this: + + foo :: Property + foo = property "foo" withOS desc $ \o -> case o of + (Just (System (Debian _) _)) -> ensureProperty fooDebian + (Just (System (Ubuntu _) _)) -> ensureProperty fooUbuntu + +The first step for adding a new OS will be to modify <http://hackage.haskell.org/package/propellor-1.0.0/docs/Propellor-Types-OS.html>. +Compilation will then warn about all OS parameterized properties that +need to be updated to support your added OS, and it can be taken from there. + +I'll accept reasonable patches to support other OS's. +"""]] diff --git a/doc/forum/how_to_set_the_proxy_using_an_automatix_proxy.pac.mdwn b/doc/forum/how_to_set_the_proxy_using_an_automatix_proxy.pac.mdwn new file mode 100644 index 00000000..c88defcf --- /dev/null +++ b/doc/forum/how_to_set_the_proxy_using_an_automatix_proxy.pac.mdwn @@ -0,0 +1,12 @@ +Hello, + +I am trying propellor on Debian Jessie (haskell is fantastic for this sort or things) to setup one of my computer. + +On my network, the system administrator set proxies for http and https. +These information are available via a http://proxy/proxy.pac URL. + +So I would like to know what should be done to extract this information and set it for all users on the system ? + +Cheers + +Frederic diff --git a/doc/forum/how_to_set_the_proxy_using_an_automatix_proxy.pac/comment_1_69d7c8fb1d62300456575bb10e935d69._comment b/doc/forum/how_to_set_the_proxy_using_an_automatix_proxy.pac/comment_1_69d7c8fb1d62300456575bb10e935d69._comment new file mode 100644 index 00000000..6bf8844d --- /dev/null +++ b/doc/forum/how_to_set_the_proxy_using_an_automatix_proxy.pac/comment_1_69d7c8fb1d62300456575bb10e935d69._comment @@ -0,0 +1,10 @@ +[[!comment format=mdwn + username="joey" + subject="""comment 1""" + date="2014-11-25T15:44:13Z" + content=""" +You could, for example, use Propellor.Propety.Cmd.cmdProperty +to run a command that sets up the proxying. If there's not a single command +that does it, you could cause propellor to fetch the url and deploy the +info itself. +"""]] diff --git a/doc/forum/how_to_set_the_proxy_using_an_automatix_proxy.pac/comment_2_da30b2621493e48ceabcfa5732dbcdf8._comment b/doc/forum/how_to_set_the_proxy_using_an_automatix_proxy.pac/comment_2_da30b2621493e48ceabcfa5732dbcdf8._comment new file mode 100644 index 00000000..8458ee49 --- /dev/null +++ b/doc/forum/how_to_set_the_proxy_using_an_automatix_proxy.pac/comment_2_da30b2621493e48ceabcfa5732dbcdf8._comment @@ -0,0 +1,19 @@ +[[!comment format=mdwn + username="picca" + subject="comment 2" + date="2014-11-25T17:55:25Z" + content=""" +In my case I need to wget the proxy.pac file and parse it to find the right proxy. + +what worried me is that these proxy.pac things are dynamical depending on the ip of the sender AND the receive. +It work nicely with web browser, but not with the unix http_proxy and HTTPS_PROXY env. + +nevertheless, I can create something to parse my local setup and extract the right http_proxy. + +Is there something available in Propellor to set a global environment variable in /etc/environment (the right place for this ?) + +cheers + +Frederic + +"""]] diff --git a/doc/forum/how_to_set_the_proxy_using_an_automatix_proxy.pac/comment_3_bd76d169af2ef2f154ad1f0f64506661._comment b/doc/forum/how_to_set_the_proxy_using_an_automatix_proxy.pac/comment_3_bd76d169af2ef2f154ad1f0f64506661._comment new file mode 100644 index 00000000..9bdcb4df --- /dev/null +++ b/doc/forum/how_to_set_the_proxy_using_an_automatix_proxy.pac/comment_3_bd76d169af2ef2f154ad1f0f64506661._comment @@ -0,0 +1,11 @@ +[[!comment format=mdwn + username="joey" + subject="""comment 1""" + date="2014-11-25T19:37:46Z" + content=""" +There's no Property that handles setting global environment currently, but +it's a reasonable one to add. + +I think that /etc/environment is read by `pam_env` logins, but maybe not +other things, so dunno. +"""]] diff --git a/doc/forum/how_to_set_the_proxy_using_an_automatix_proxy.pac/comment_4_a6a49d35ee8a05abc982049b55d0397c._comment b/doc/forum/how_to_set_the_proxy_using_an_automatix_proxy.pac/comment_4_a6a49d35ee8a05abc982049b55d0397c._comment new file mode 100644 index 00000000..d2a0b45e --- /dev/null +++ b/doc/forum/how_to_set_the_proxy_using_an_automatix_proxy.pac/comment_4_a6a49d35ee8a05abc982049b55d0397c._comment @@ -0,0 +1,11 @@ +[[!comment format=mdwn + username="picca" + subject="comment 4" + date="2014-11-25T20:01:12Z" + content=""" +I saw that there is an haskell binding for augeas. + +Maybe this could be a nice uniform interface to deal with all the system configuration files. +then no need to deal with the config file formats. + +"""]] diff --git a/doc/forum/how_to_set_the_proxy_using_an_automatix_proxy.pac/comment_5_7783b8a96c8032a39ff3b5b446a976ed._comment b/doc/forum/how_to_set_the_proxy_using_an_automatix_proxy.pac/comment_5_7783b8a96c8032a39ff3b5b446a976ed._comment new file mode 100644 index 00000000..d670fa3b --- /dev/null +++ b/doc/forum/how_to_set_the_proxy_using_an_automatix_proxy.pac/comment_5_7783b8a96c8032a39ff3b5b446a976ed._comment @@ -0,0 +1,7 @@ +[[!comment format=mdwn + username="gueux" + subject="comment 5" + date="2014-11-27T08:17:36Z" + content=""" +Just looked at augeas, and add it to propellor would be great. Much more robust than Propellor.Property.File.{containsLine,containsLines,lacksLine}, at least. +"""]] diff --git a/doc/forum/modify_managed_host_propellor__39__s_.git__47__config.mdwn b/doc/forum/modify_managed_host_propellor__39__s_.git__47__config.mdwn new file mode 100644 index 00000000..0815b4b3 --- /dev/null +++ b/doc/forum/modify_managed_host_propellor__39__s_.git__47__config.mdwn @@ -0,0 +1 @@ +How can I modify the configuration of a managed host (which seems to be stored in /usr/local/propellor/.git/config) from the host on which I run propellor? diff --git a/doc/forum/modify_managed_host_propellor__39__s_.git__47__config/comment_1_da3ebb4736a1f1012b6d27bcd33ff44f._comment b/doc/forum/modify_managed_host_propellor__39__s_.git__47__config/comment_1_da3ebb4736a1f1012b6d27bcd33ff44f._comment new file mode 100644 index 00000000..f034a377 --- /dev/null +++ b/doc/forum/modify_managed_host_propellor__39__s_.git__47__config/comment_1_da3ebb4736a1f1012b6d27bcd33ff44f._comment @@ -0,0 +1,10 @@ +[[!comment format=mdwn + username="joey" + subject="""comment 1""" + date="2014-10-31T14:40:33Z" + content=""" +I'm curious what you need to configure there.. + +But, there seems to be a simple solution: Add a Property that configures +the .git/config however you need to! :) +"""]] diff --git a/doc/forum/my_experience_with_propellor:_how_to_run_a_single_task_on_a_host__63__.mdwn b/doc/forum/my_experience_with_propellor:_how_to_run_a_single_task_on_a_host__63__.mdwn new file mode 100644 index 00000000..0a50fc91 --- /dev/null +++ b/doc/forum/my_experience_with_propellor:_how_to_run_a_single_task_on_a_host__63__.mdwn @@ -0,0 +1,177 @@ +Having taken the inital hurdle of getting propellor running +(cf. my last post in this forum), I am beginning to like propellor +quite a lot. - This comes not too much as a surprise, as I am +a Haskeller really. - I would love to use it for all my configuration +needs, and to that end ditch ansible. + +Propellor's biggest show stopper for me is this (maybe I am misunderstanding +propellor?): + +I can run + +``` + propellor --spin myhost +``` + +from the command line, and all the tasks/properties that I have +defined myhost to have beforehand will be executed/realized/configured. + +Say eg. I haved defined (sorry for the bad formatting, +seems I have to do it line by line to get the markdown look nice) + +``` +myhost :: Host +``` + +``` +myhost = host "myhost" + & os (System (Debian Testing) "amd64") + & emacs + & apt +``` + +``` +emacs :: Property HasInfo +``` + +``` +emacs = propertyList "install & configure emacs" $ props + & Apt.installed ["emacs" + , "auto-complete-el"] +``` + +``` + apt :: Property HasInfo +``` + +``` +apt = propertyList "apt update + upgrade" $ props + & Apt.update + & Apt.upgrade +``` + + +Then running + +``` + propellor --spin myhost +``` + +will make sure, that emacs is installed, and all my +packages on myhost are up to date. + +It does so every time I run propellor, but normally I install +emacs only once (and I know it's installed), whereas +the apt update+upgrade combo I would want to run every other day. + +So what I would like is this: have just a minimal config for +myhost, like this: + +``` +myhost :: Host +``` + +``` +myhost = host "myhost" + & os (System (Debian Testing) "amd64") +``` + +and then run a task (require a property ?) on myhost, somehow +from the command line, like this + +``` + propellor --spin myhost --task apt +``` + +Many other properties / installation steps I could run in this +manner, like installing emacs initially + +``` + propellor --spin myhost --task emacs +``` + +In ansible I can do this with playbooks: + +``` + ansible-playbook -l myhost apt.yml +``` + +with some preconfigured playbook apt.yml that does just +the apt update + upgrade task and nothing else. But I would +have other tasks in other playbooks of course: I can install & configure +emacs on myhost + +``` + ansible-playbook -l myhost emacs.yml +``` + +etc. + +Related to that (but maybe not strictly the same question): + +I wouldn't mind writing my own haskell script that does +the command line parsing (with optparse applicative eg): +I could have options for + +``` + --host (myhost/...) +``` + +and + +``` + --task (emacs/apt/...) +``` + +and then just call into propellor. Unfortunately propellor's +defaultMain does more than I want: gets the command line +from processCmdLine. + +So I tried to create my own otherMain (similar to defaultMain, +but would let me do my own command line parsing): + +``` + otherMain :: [Host] -> CmdLine -> IO () +``` + +but then at some point just gave up: for one thing: things +were getting complicated, because of all the indirection: +the propellor command line tool recompiles itself (?), +does all this git stuff etc. + +And then: maybe I am approaching things in the wrong direction: +maybe it's just not meant to be used that way +(but ansible works fine for me in this regard)? + +And I thought: I don't really want to start a major programming +task just to get this thing working, the way that seems +reasonable to me. Or maybe it's possible already, and I just +don't know how to use it? (So I am stuck with ansible for the time +being). + +Still more or less related: + +Say this otherMain function existed, that allowed me to +to do my own command line parsing and just +call propellor on some host with the one or the other task, +I am not 100% what's the right +way to ensure/require/execute such a task on a host: + +above I am just using + +``` + host & property +``` + +(from PropAccum), but maybe ensureProperty is better suited +for that? + +Also for the wish list: some CONFIG_FILE env variable that +would allow me to keep my config.hs somewhere other than +in ~/.propellor/config.hs + + +Anyway, thanks so far +I would certainly want to switch to propellor completely. + + Andreas diff --git a/doc/forum/my_experience_with_propellor:_how_to_run_a_single_task_on_a_host__63__/comment_1_8959a79735aa3fa13ee37e57eb5a92e1._comment b/doc/forum/my_experience_with_propellor:_how_to_run_a_single_task_on_a_host__63__/comment_1_8959a79735aa3fa13ee37e57eb5a92e1._comment new file mode 100644 index 00000000..273dc758 --- /dev/null +++ b/doc/forum/my_experience_with_propellor:_how_to_run_a_single_task_on_a_host__63__/comment_1_8959a79735aa3fa13ee37e57eb5a92e1._comment @@ -0,0 +1,14 @@ +[[!comment format=mdwn + username="joey" + subject="""comment 1""" + date="2015-04-14T18:48:23Z" + content=""" +By composing these things at the command-line, you're using the +command-line, rather than haskell, for describing your system. I don't +think that's a win. + +As far as properties that you don't want to have run every time, see +`Propellor.Property.Scheduled.period`. For example: + + & Apt.update `period` Daily +"""]] diff --git a/doc/forum/my_experience_with_propellor:_how_to_run_a_single_task_on_a_host__63__/comment_2_f07c33b4a14cdc0b78695de49875c9b5._comment b/doc/forum/my_experience_with_propellor:_how_to_run_a_single_task_on_a_host__63__/comment_2_f07c33b4a14cdc0b78695de49875c9b5._comment new file mode 100644 index 00000000..3eca3457 --- /dev/null +++ b/doc/forum/my_experience_with_propellor:_how_to_run_a_single_task_on_a_host__63__/comment_2_f07c33b4a14cdc0b78695de49875c9b5._comment @@ -0,0 +1,52 @@ +[[!comment format=mdwn + username="https://www.google.com/accounts/o8/id?id=AItOawm-czsfuWENKQ0GI8l0gnGTeF1JEli1mA0" + nickname="Andreas" + subject="comment 2" + date="2015-04-14T19:24:46Z" + content=""" +using the command line: well yes, that's right. +Still: I can configure a lot of details in haskell (ansible playbooks): + +my emacs task eg. is not only ensuring that emacs is installed +(as in the example above), but I also set some links to my +elisp config files, ensure that cask installed etc. + +another task for me is installing X windows: +again lots of details: not only the xorg packages, +but some links to .xsession files, window manager config +files etc. + +and yes: I am happy, that I can spell out the details +of these tasks in propellor/haskell. + +I just don't see the point of ensuring them again and again +with every spin of propellor, and I would want +to be able to run just this one task on the command line. + + +concerning +``` + Apt.update `period` Daily +``` +thanks, will have a look. +but I guess this is cron job (will see), +in general I think I will want to stick to my habit, that I want +to see what's going on (what is upgraded), thus prefer +to not run any cron jobs for apt upgrades + +My overall message / concern is: I don't want to completly change my +habits, just because I am using propellor + +I had the habit of installing my computers task by task + +I had the habit of logging in to one of my systems, and +doing apt-get update && apt-get upgrade + +I want my config tool to help me achieve things in my +way that I am used to. + + + + + +"""]] diff --git a/doc/forum/my_experience_with_propellor:_how_to_run_a_single_task_on_a_host__63__/comment_3_06c63446531f56e4c93f64f6bcfba2b1._comment b/doc/forum/my_experience_with_propellor:_how_to_run_a_single_task_on_a_host__63__/comment_3_06c63446531f56e4c93f64f6bcfba2b1._comment new file mode 100644 index 00000000..144915df --- /dev/null +++ b/doc/forum/my_experience_with_propellor:_how_to_run_a_single_task_on_a_host__63__/comment_3_06c63446531f56e4c93f64f6bcfba2b1._comment @@ -0,0 +1,25 @@ +[[!comment format=mdwn + username="joey" + subject="""comment 3""" + date="2015-04-14T19:42:22Z" + content=""" +[period](http://hackage.haskell.org/package/propellor-2.2.1/docs/Propellor-Property-Scheduled.html) +is not a cron job, it just modifies the Property to only do anything +every so often. + +It's also possible to modify a Property so it only runs once. +[flagFile](http://hackage.haskell.org/package/propellor-2.2.1/docs/Propellor-Property.html#v:flagFile) +can be used to do that. + +But there are good reasons for propellor to default to checking all +Properties of a system each time: + +* It means that most Properties are idempotent, which has many good + features, like being able to recover from a crash. +* If a system no longer has a configured Property, to fix it back to having + the property it's supposed to have. +* Or, if it can't be fixed, to tell you with an error message in red. +* It keeps propellor mostly stateless; rather than having to record state + about how it thinks a system is, which could diverge from reality, + it just looks at how it actually is. +"""]] diff --git a/doc/forum/my_experience_with_propellor:_how_to_run_a_single_task_on_a_host__63__/comment_4_f52f30380b4fe58292fcf0ef368efbb1._comment b/doc/forum/my_experience_with_propellor:_how_to_run_a_single_task_on_a_host__63__/comment_4_f52f30380b4fe58292fcf0ef368efbb1._comment new file mode 100644 index 00000000..ecd20630 --- /dev/null +++ b/doc/forum/my_experience_with_propellor:_how_to_run_a_single_task_on_a_host__63__/comment_4_f52f30380b4fe58292fcf0ef368efbb1._comment @@ -0,0 +1,44 @@ +[[!comment format=mdwn + username="https://www.google.com/accounts/o8/id?id=AItOawm-czsfuWENKQ0GI8l0gnGTeF1JEli1mA0" + nickname="Andreas" + subject="comment 4" + date="2015-04-15T10:15:17Z" + content=""" +Well thanks a lot, and yes I am learning: propellor has a lot +of powerful features under the hood already. + +I still remain sceptical for the time being: + +Propellor's overall approach seems: one spin of propellor does ensure +that a complete systems is properly installed (and then one can +declare exceptions: don't check this every time...). I can even see +how this is useful: if I where a sys admin with a huge farm of +systems, I wouldn't want to deal with half installed systems, but just +have propellor do a complete job. + +As far as I am only concerned with a few personal computers of mine, I +prefer to stick to my task by task approach, though, and for tasks +that come up reapeatedly (like keeping my apt cache + installed +packages up to date) that seems reasonable to me as well. - having +only a minimal required configuration for a host, and then building +upon that (I think/hope, you got the idea by now). The fact, that +this model is nicely supported by ansible, seems to suggest at least, +that this kind of reasoning/approach is not completely flawed. + +What is not 100% clear to me: if propellor could be bent to support my +kind of workflow: I would think that it's possible? (even though I +might not have the time to bend it that way myself). Or are there any +fundamental issues with it? + +What I am suggesting is: that propellor be at my disposal, +more as a library, and would not also impose a certain +command line interface / workflow on me. + +Anyway, you would certainly win me as a user (don't know +how much that counts, and cannot speak for other people's +needs). + +Thanks anyway. + Andreas + +"""]] diff --git a/doc/forum/propellor_with_no_central_repository__63__.mdwn b/doc/forum/propellor_with_no_central_repository__63__.mdwn new file mode 100644 index 00000000..5f322878 --- /dev/null +++ b/doc/forum/propellor_with_no_central_repository__63__.mdwn @@ -0,0 +1 @@ +Is there a way to use propellor with no central repository? diff --git a/doc/forum/propellor_with_no_central_repository__63__/comment_1_6a2a5068962b17dac08609cd65887f48._comment b/doc/forum/propellor_with_no_central_repository__63__/comment_1_6a2a5068962b17dac08609cd65887f48._comment new file mode 100644 index 00000000..1f1456c5 --- /dev/null +++ b/doc/forum/propellor_with_no_central_repository__63__/comment_1_6a2a5068962b17dac08609cd65887f48._comment @@ -0,0 +1,7 @@ +[[!comment format=mdwn + username="joey" + subject="""comment 1""" + date="2014-10-31T14:39:48Z" + content=""" +Not yet, but see [[todo/git_push_over_propellor_ssh_channel]] +"""]] diff --git a/doc/forum/propellor_with_no_central_repository__63__/comment_2_0f035bb4bb5cc13574394505f28abe5e._comment b/doc/forum/propellor_with_no_central_repository__63__/comment_2_0f035bb4bb5cc13574394505f28abe5e._comment new file mode 100644 index 00000000..6a6aa946 --- /dev/null +++ b/doc/forum/propellor_with_no_central_repository__63__/comment_2_0f035bb4bb5cc13574394505f28abe5e._comment @@ -0,0 +1,9 @@ +[[!comment format=mdwn + username="joey" + subject="""yay!""" + date="2014-11-19T01:31:14Z" + content=""" +propellor now supports this mode by default, just use `propellor --spin +hostname` and the changes in the local repo will be pushed and deployed to +the host, w/o needing a centralized git repo. +"""]] diff --git a/doc/forum/property_combinator_ordering.mdwn b/doc/forum/property_combinator_ordering.mdwn new file mode 100644 index 00000000..25549bb4 --- /dev/null +++ b/doc/forum/property_combinator_ordering.mdwn @@ -0,0 +1,8 @@ +when I write + + setDistribution cfg = f `File.hasContent` cfg + `onChange` update + `requires` File.dirExists confDir + +is update called before ensuring the confiDir Exist ? +It seems to me but who knows ? diff --git a/doc/forum/property_combinator_ordering/comment_1_0ea2186b5cfa7eadaf38ac2e97fc4a2c._comment b/doc/forum/property_combinator_ordering/comment_1_0ea2186b5cfa7eadaf38ac2e97fc4a2c._comment new file mode 100644 index 00000000..c41abd90 --- /dev/null +++ b/doc/forum/property_combinator_ordering/comment_1_0ea2186b5cfa7eadaf38ac2e97fc4a2c._comment @@ -0,0 +1,31 @@ +[[!comment format=mdwn + username="joey" + subject="""comment 1""" + date="2014-12-01T15:53:11Z" + content=""" +I think that should behave intuitively, but of course if you're unsure +of this kind of thing, adding parens is a good way to disambiguate the +code. + + (f `File.hasContent` cfg `onChange` update) + `requires` File.dirExists confDir + +Written that way, it's explicit that the parenthesized part runs +together as one action. + +Or, we can do a quick test in ghci: + + joey@darkstar:~/src/propellor/src#joeyconfig>ghci Propellor.hs Propellor/Property.hs + *Propellor> let f1 = property "hasContent" (liftIO (print "f1") >> return MadeChange) + *Propellor> let f2 = property "update" (liftIO (print "f2") >> return MadeChange) + *Propellor> let f3 = property "dirExists" (liftIO (print "f3") >> return MadeChange) + *Propellor> runPropellor (Host "foo" [] mempty) $ ensureProperty $ f1 `onChange` f2 `requires` f3 + "dirExists" + "hasContent" + "update" + MadeChange + +So, yes, it's behaving as it should, first ensuring that the `requires` +property is met, and then running the main property, and since it made a +change, following up by running the `onChange` property. +"""]] diff --git a/doc/forum/trying_to_--spin_to_a_sid+experimental_machine.mdwn b/doc/forum/trying_to_--spin_to_a_sid+experimental_machine.mdwn new file mode 100644 index 00000000..1fde595c --- /dev/null +++ b/doc/forum/trying_to_--spin_to_a_sid+experimental_machine.mdwn @@ -0,0 +1,290 @@ +I'm trying to get propellor running, and for now, I'd prefer +to not use a central git repo, according to what I have read + +``` + propellor --spin host +``` + +should do just that: not use git. + +So I have cabal installed propellor locally, and +in addition cloned + +``` + git clone git://propellor.branchable.com/ .propellor +``` + +in my $HOME + +My local machine (from where I run propellor) runs debian testing, the +machine I want to spin to: softland, debian unstable+experimental, +ie. unstable in general + all things ghc from experimental, to get ghc +7.8.4 (but not any more than that from experimental). + +was not sure, what the right propellor config would be in that case: + +``` +& os (System (Debian Experimental) "amd64") +``` +which I have used, or + +``` + & os (System (Debian Unstable) "amd64") +``` +because in general I want Unstable + + +First thing I notice, when running + + +``` +$ propellor --spin softland +``` + +propellor nevertheless tries to git push (but fails, obviously, +somewhere down in propellors output): + +``` +... +Building propellor-2.2.1... +Preprocessing library propellor-2.2.1... +In-place registering propellor-2.2.1... +Preprocessing executable 'propellor' for propellor-2.2.1... +Preprocessing executable 'propellor-config' for propellor-2.2.1... +Propellor build ... done +[master 8ca2715] propellor spin +Git commit ... done +Counting objects: 10, done. +Delta compression using up to 2 threads. +Compressing objects: 100% (8/8), done. +Writing objects: 100% (10/10), 913 bytes | 0 bytes/s, done. +Total 10 (delta 6), reused 0 (delta 0) +remote: you are not allowed to change config.hs +To git://propellor.branchable.com/ + ! [remote rejected] master -> master (pre-receive hook declined) +error: failed to push some refs to 'git://propellor.branchable.com/' +Push to central git repository ... failed +Stop listening request sent. +Hit http://ftp.uk.debian.org sid InRelease +Hit http://ftp.uk.debian.org experimental InRelease +Get:1 http://ftp.uk.debian.org sid/main amd64 Packages/DiffIndex [7,876 B] +... +``` + +Note in particular the lines: + +``` + To git://propellor.branchable.com/ + ! [remote rejected] master -> master (pre-receive hook declined) + error: failed to push some refs to 'git://propellor.branchable.com/' + Push to central git repository ... failed +``` + +Shouldn't propellor be completely quiet about git / +not try to push at all? + +OK, never mind, let's see what's next: some long +output, propellor finally fails, I assume it's because +of my sid+experimental configuration? + + +``` +Stop listening request sent. +Hit http://ftp.uk.debian.org sid InRelease +Hit http://ftp.uk.debian.org experimental InRelease +Get:1 http://ftp.uk.debian.org sid/main amd64 Packages/DiffIndex [7,876 B] +Get:2 http://ftp.uk.debian.org sid/contrib amd64 Packages/DiffIndex [7,819 B] +Get:3 http://ftp.uk.debian.org sid/non-free amd64 Packages/DiffIndex [7,819 B] +Get:4 http://ftp.uk.debian.org sid/contrib Translation-en/DiffIndex [7,819 B] +Get:5 http://ftp.uk.debian.org sid/main Translation-en/DiffIndex [7,876 B] +Get:6 http://ftp.uk.debian.org sid/non-free Translation-en/DiffIndex [7,819 B] +Get:7 http://ftp.uk.debian.org sid/main Sources [7,633 kB] +Get:8 http://ftp.uk.debian.org sid/contrib Sources [57.1 kB] +Get:9 http://ftp.uk.debian.org sid/non-free Sources [105 kB] +Get:10 http://ftp.uk.debian.org experimental/main Sources/DiffIndex [7,819 B] +Get:11 http://ftp.uk.debian.org experimental/contrib Sources/DiffIndex [7,819 B] +Get:12 http://ftp.uk.debian.org experimental/non-free Sources/DiffIndex [7,819 B] +Get:13 http://ftp.uk.debian.org experimental/main amd64 Packages/DiffIndex [7,819 B] +Get:14 http://ftp.uk.debian.org experimental/contrib amd64 Packages/DiffIndex [7,819 B] +Get:15 http://ftp.uk.debian.org experimental/contrib Translation-en/DiffIndex [7,819 B] +Get:16 http://ftp.uk.debian.org experimental/main Translation-en/DiffIndex [7,819 B] +Fetched 7,897 kB in 6s (1,169 kB/s) +Reading package lists... +Reading package lists... +Building dependency tree... +Reading state information... +Skipping gnupg, it is already installed and upgrade is not set. +0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded. +Reading package lists... +Building dependency tree... +Reading state information... +Skipping ghc, it is already installed and upgrade is not set. +0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded. +Reading package lists... +Building dependency tree... +Reading state information... +Skipping cabal-install, it is already installed and upgrade is not set. +0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded. +Reading package lists... +Building dependency tree... +Reading state information... +Skipping libghc-async-dev, it is already installed and upgrade is not set. +0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded. +Reading package lists... +Building dependency tree... +Reading state information... +Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have +requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable +distribution that some required packages have not yet been created +or been moved out of Incoming. +The following information may help to resolve the situation: +The following packages have unmet dependencies: + libghc-missingh-dev : Depends: libghc-hunit-dev-1.2.5.2-6e02e + Depends: libghc-array-dev-0.4.0.1-3b784 + Depends: libghc-base-dev-4.6.0.1-8aa5d + Depends: libghc-containers-dev-0.5.0.0-ab1da + Depends: libghc-directory-dev-1.2.0.1-91a78 + Depends: libghc-filepath-dev-1.3.0.1-b12cb + Depends: libghc-hslogger-dev-1.2.1-028cc + Depends: libghc-mtl-dev-2.1.2-94c72 + Depends: libghc-network-dev-2.4.1.2-040ce + Depends: libghc-old-locale-dev-1.0.0.5-6729c + Depends: libghc-old-time-dev-1.1.0.1-2f8ea + Depends: libghc-parsec-dev-3.1.3-6c6e2 + Depends: libghc-process-dev-1.1.0.2-76e05 + Depends: libghc-random-dev-1.0.1.1-43fdc + Depends: libghc-regex-compat-dev-0.95.1-121c7 + Depends: libghc-time-dev-1.4.0.1-10dc4 + Depends: libghc-unix-dev-2.6.0.1-4f219 +E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages. +Reading package lists... +Building dependency tree... +Reading state information... +Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have +requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable +distribution that some required packages have not yet been created +or been moved out of Incoming. +The following information may help to resolve the situation: +The following packages have unmet dependencies: + libghc-hslogger-dev : Depends: libghc-base-dev-4.6.0.1-8aa5d + Depends: libghc-containers-dev-0.5.0.0-ab1da + Depends: libghc-directory-dev-1.2.0.1-91a78 + Depends: libghc-mtl-dev-2.1.2-94c72 + Depends: libghc-network-dev-2.4.1.2-040ce + Depends: libghc-old-locale-dev-1.0.0.5-6729c + Depends: libghc-process-dev-1.1.0.2-76e05 + Depends: libghc-time-dev-1.4.0.1-10dc4 + Depends: libghc-unix-dev-2.6.0.1-4f219 +E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages. +Reading package lists... +Building dependency tree... +Reading state information... +Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have +requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable +distribution that some required packages have not yet been created +or been moved out of Incoming. +The following information may help to resolve the situation: +The following packages have unmet dependencies: + libghc-unix-compat-dev : Depends: libghc-base-dev-4.6.0.1-8aa5d + Depends: libghc-unix-dev-2.6.0.1-4f219 +E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages. +Reading package lists... +Building dependency tree... +Reading state information... +Skipping libghc-ansi-terminal-dev, it is already installed and upgrade is not set. +0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded. +Reading package lists... +Building dependency tree... +Reading state information... +Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have +requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable +distribution that some required packages have not yet been created +or been moved out of Incoming. +The following information may help to resolve the situation: +The following packages have unmet dependencies: + libghc-ifelse-dev : Depends: libghc-base-dev-4.6.0.1-8aa5d +E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages. +Reading package lists... +Building dependency tree... +Reading state information... +Skipping libghc-network-dev, it is already installed and upgrade is not set. +0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded. +Reading package lists... +Building dependency tree... +Reading state information... +Skipping libghc-quickcheck2-dev, it is already installed and upgrade is not set. +0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded. +Reading package lists... +Building dependency tree... +Reading state information... +Skipping libghc-mtl-dev, it is already installed and upgrade is not set. +0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded. +Reading package lists... +Building dependency tree... +Reading state information... +Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have +requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable +distribution that some required packages have not yet been created +or been moved out of Incoming. +The following information may help to resolve the situation: +The following packages have unmet dependencies: + libghc-monadcatchio-transformers-dev : Depends: libghc-base-dev-4.6.0.1-8aa5d + Depends: libghc-extensible-exceptions-dev-0.1.1.4-255a3 + Depends: libghc-monads-tf-dev-0.1.0.2-731f0 + Depends: libghc-transformers-dev-0.3.0.0-ff2bb +E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages. +Downloading the latest package list from hackage.haskell.org +Skipping download: Local and remote files match. +Resolving dependencies... +All the requested packages are already installed: +Use --reinstall if you want to reinstall anyway. +Resolving dependencies... +Configuring propellor-2.2.1... +Building propellor-2.2.1... +Preprocessing library propellor-2.2.1... +In-place registering propellor-2.2.1... +Preprocessing executable 'propellor' for propellor-2.2.1... +Preprocessing excaecutable 'propellor-bal: can't find source for configconf in src +ig' for propellor-2.2.1... +propellor: user error (ssh ["-o","ControlPath=/home/rx/.ssh/propellor/softland.sock","-o","ControlMaster=auto","-o","ControlPersist=yes","root@softland","sh -c 'if [ ! -d /usr/local/propellor/.git ] ; then (if ! git --version >/dev/null; then apt-get update && apt-get --no-install-recommends --no-upgrade -y install git; fi && echo STATUSNeedGitClone) || echo STATUSNeedPrecompiled ; else cd /usr/local/propellor && if ! test -x ./propellor; then ( apt-get update ; apt-get --no-upgrade --no-install-recommends -y install gnupg ; apt-get --no-upgrade --no-install-recommends -y install ghc ; apt-get --no-upgrade --no-install-recommends -y install cabal-install ; apt-get --no-upgrade --no-install-recommends -y install libghc-async-dev ; apt-get --no-upgrade --no-install-recommends -y install libghc-missingh-dev ; apt-get --no-upgrade --no-install-recommends -y install libghc-hslogger-dev ; apt-get --no-upgrade --no-install-recommends -y install libghc-unix-compat-dev ; apt-get --no-upgrade --no-install-recommends -y install libghc-ansi-terminal-dev ; apt-get --no-upgrade --no-install-recommends -y install libghc-ifelse-dev ; apt-get --no-upgrade --no-install-recommends -y install libghc-network-dev ; apt-get --no-upgrade --no-install-recommends -y install libghc-quickcheck2-dev ; apt-get --no-upgrade --no-install-recommends -y install libghc-mtl-dev ; apt-get --no-upgrade --no-install-recommends -y install libghc-monadcatchio-transformers-dev ; cabal update ; cabal install --only-dependencies ) || true && cabal configure && cabal build && ln -sf dist/build/propellor-config/propellor-config propellor; fi && ./propellor --boot softland ; fi'"] exited 1) +rx@varenne ~/work/propellor $ +``` + +I should add, that I have tried to --spin to another +machine, and ... finally got that working: + + +``` + , host "laptop" + & os (System (Debian Testing) "amd64") +``` + +Not sure, if I need more than that, want to keep it to the +minimum first, anyway: + + +``` + propellor --spin laptop +``` + +this works, yeah - sorry for the noise, above - but still I get + + +``` +Git commit ... done +To git://propellor.branchable.com/ + ! [rejected] master -> master (fetch first) +error: failed to push some refs to 'git://propellor.branchable.com/' +hint: Updates were rejected because the remote contains work that you do +hint: not have locally. This is usually caused by another repository pushing +hint: to the same ref. You may want to first integrate the remote changes +hint: (e.g., 'git pull ...') before pushing again. +hint: See the 'Note about fast-forwards' in 'git push --help' for details. +Push to central git repository ... failed +``` + +Possible to turn off these git push attempts? + + +Thanks, + Andreas diff --git a/doc/forum/trying_to_--spin_to_a_sid+experimental_machine/comment_1_df7ac45d7e576e8d73a8665521dbd6e0._comment b/doc/forum/trying_to_--spin_to_a_sid+experimental_machine/comment_1_df7ac45d7e576e8d73a8665521dbd6e0._comment new file mode 100644 index 00000000..cfe1750a --- /dev/null +++ b/doc/forum/trying_to_--spin_to_a_sid+experimental_machine/comment_1_df7ac45d7e576e8d73a8665521dbd6e0._comment @@ -0,0 +1,29 @@ +[[!comment format=mdwn + username="https://www.google.com/accounts/o8/id?id=AItOawm-czsfuWENKQ0GI8l0gnGTeF1JEli1mA0" + nickname="Andreas" + subject="finally got it working" + date="2015-03-27T05:15:26Z" + content=""" +can spin to softland, my sid+experimental host now. + +with recent git://propellor.branchable.com/ updates +and have used: + +``` + & os (System (Debian Experimental) \"amd64\") +``` + +so sorry for the noise, still not sure about: + +* how to express my installation properly: + mostly unstable, ghc stuff from experimental + +* how to turn off the git push to branchable attempts + when just spinning to one of my mashines: + have set now: + ``` + git branch --unset-upstream + ``` + which shortcuts these attempts at least. + +"""]] diff --git a/doc/forum/trying_to_--spin_to_a_sid+experimental_machine/comment_2_8600d257d92f786f2fcf0d4934f727d5._comment b/doc/forum/trying_to_--spin_to_a_sid+experimental_machine/comment_2_8600d257d92f786f2fcf0d4934f727d5._comment new file mode 100644 index 00000000..51c3fc53 --- /dev/null +++ b/doc/forum/trying_to_--spin_to_a_sid+experimental_machine/comment_2_8600d257d92f786f2fcf0d4934f727d5._comment @@ -0,0 +1,17 @@ +[[!comment format=mdwn + username="joey" + subject="""comment 2""" + date="2015-03-30T23:22:17Z" + content=""" +Pushing to origin is needed when using propellor in the central git +repository deployment mode. So it makes sense for --spin to try to push. +If that push fails for some reason, it's not a fatal error, since propellor +--spin also does peer-to-peer pushes. + +I don't think I want to get into trying to determine if a particular origin +repo url is read-only or read-write. It can be hard to tell with eg +a https url. + +Why don't you just `git remote rename origin upstream`? If the remote +is not called origin, propellor will ignore it. +"""]] diff --git a/doc/forum/trying_to_--spin_to_a_sid+experimental_machine/comment_3_f1ca62944fe0303db6f1dc0916e8c967._comment b/doc/forum/trying_to_--spin_to_a_sid+experimental_machine/comment_3_f1ca62944fe0303db6f1dc0916e8c967._comment new file mode 100644 index 00000000..ed34d6a7 --- /dev/null +++ b/doc/forum/trying_to_--spin_to_a_sid+experimental_machine/comment_3_f1ca62944fe0303db6f1dc0916e8c967._comment @@ -0,0 +1,13 @@ +[[!comment format=mdwn + username="joey" + subject="""comment 3""" + date="2015-03-30T23:26:38Z" + content=""" +As to a mixed unstable/experimental machine, such a machine has a Property +of having somepackage installed from experimental. One way to represent +that is by defining a property: + +installedFromExperimental :: [Package] -> Property NoInfo +installedFromExperimental = Apt.installed' ["-y", "-texperimental"] + +"""]] diff --git a/doc/forum/trying_to_--spin_to_a_sid+experimental_machine/comment_4_d0d946df7455d079af9bc331da6fac55._comment b/doc/forum/trying_to_--spin_to_a_sid+experimental_machine/comment_4_d0d946df7455d079af9bc331da6fac55._comment new file mode 100644 index 00000000..72b21450 --- /dev/null +++ b/doc/forum/trying_to_--spin_to_a_sid+experimental_machine/comment_4_d0d946df7455d079af9bc331da6fac55._comment @@ -0,0 +1,16 @@ +[[!comment format=mdwn + username="https://www.google.com/accounts/o8/id?id=AItOawm-czsfuWENKQ0GI8l0gnGTeF1JEli1mA0" + nickname="Andreas" + subject="thanks a lot" + date="2015-04-06T21:11:46Z" + content=""" +thanks for your your commments (both of them), +and fair enough: have just renamed my origin remote to upstream, +will try your installedFromExperimental suggestion next. + + +I will have more questions about propellor, +but aske them in a different thread +(as they are not really about installation) + +"""]] |